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to speak a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morale who is a career agency analyst, michael morel has now stepped in as acting director again. i think that is, from the standpoint of the cia and the establishment of the u.s. intelligence office the most positive thing you could say. >> thank you, david, and richard, that's "hardball" for now. coming up next, "your business" with j.j. ramberg. since my first twenty-ninth birthday. [ female announcer ] head & shoulders. live flake free. campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do.
to speak a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morale who is a career agency analyst, michael morel has now stepped in as acting director again. i think that is, from the standpoint of the cia and the establishment of the u.s. intelligence office the most positive thing you could say. >> thank you, david, and richard, that's "hardball" for now. coming up next, "your...
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to speak a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morrell who is a career agency analyst, michael morrell has now stepped in as acting director again. i think that is, from the standpoint of the cia and the establishment of the u.s. intelligence office the most positive thing you could say. >> thank you, david corn and thank you, dee dee myers. >>> coming up, buy romney lost i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus liquid gels speeds relief to your worst cold symptoms plus has a decongestant for your stuffy nose. thanks. that's the cold truth! email marketing from constant contact reaches people in a place they're checking every day -- their inbox. and it gives you the tools to create custom emails that drive business. it's just one of the ways constant contact can help you grow your small business. sign up for your free trial today at constantcontact.com/try. to b
to speak a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morrell who is a career agency analyst, michael morrell has now stepped in as acting director again. i think that is, from the standpoint of the cia and the establishment of the u.s. intelligence office the most positive thing you could say. >> thank you, david corn and thank you, dee dee myers. >>> coming up, buy romney lost i...
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he was not an insider from the cia. the cia is a bit of an old-fashioned club. they like it if you come up through the ranks. there was some talk that -- one person at the cia and one person formerly at the cia put it to me this way. the cia would have had to ask the fbi to look into e-mails that were suspicious. so the cia handles its own security. the fbi would have had to have been brought in to examine somebody suspiciously trying to pry into the director's account. which does not suggest a real warmth within the organization. >> this is an incredible resignation with incredible timing. i have a feeling as we get more detail as it goes forward, it could become an even more important story. richard engel, thank you. >>> who is in charge of the republican party now? simple question with a difficult answer. that's coming up and more. [ knock on door ] cool. you found it. wow. nice place. yeah. [ chuckles ] the family thinks i'm out shipping these. smooth move. you used priority mail flat rate boxes. if it fits, it ships for a low, flat rate. paid for postage on
he was not an insider from the cia. the cia is a bit of an old-fashioned club. they like it if you come up through the ranks. there was some talk that -- one person at the cia and one person formerly at the cia put it to me this way. the cia would have had to ask the fbi to look into e-mails that were suspicious. so the cia handles its own security. the fbi would have had to have been brought in to examine somebody suspiciously trying to pry into the director's account. which does not suggest a...
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he was not an insider from the cia and the cia is a bit of an old fashioned club. they like it if you come up through the ranks. there was talk -- one person at the cia and one person formerly at the cia put it to me this way. the cia would have had to ask the fbi to look into e-mails that were suspicious. the cia handles its own security and the fbi would have had to be brought in to examine somebody suspiciously trying to pry into the director's account. which does not suggest a real warmth within the organization. >> this is an incredible resignation with incredible timing. i have a feeling as we get more detail on this as it goes forward it's going to become an even more important story. richard engel, nbc's chief foreign correspondent. thank you. richard engel, thank you. i feel a feeling we'll be talking about this shortly. >>> who's in charge of the republican party now? simple question with a difficult answer. that's coming up. were! [ husband ] transfer! [ male announcer ] free data transfer at home. you just deleted all the photos! you did! no you did! [
he was not an insider from the cia and the cia is a bit of an old fashioned club. they like it if you come up through the ranks. there was talk -- one person at the cia and one person formerly at the cia put it to me this way. the cia would have had to ask the fbi to look into e-mails that were suspicious. the cia handles its own security and the fbi would have had to be brought in to examine somebody suspiciously trying to pry into the director's account. which does not suggest a real warmth...
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to speak for a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morell, who is a career agency analyst. michael morell has stepped in as acting director again. i think that's, from the standpoint of the cia and the stability of u.s. intelligence efforts, the most positive thing you could say. morell is a career guy. he's trusted by the white house. he was trusted by petraeus, and so you have a smoother transition than you sometimes do in these situations. >> let me get back to richard engel about this. you know, you know these guys. you know as a military guy covering our fights overseas, the combat operations in iraq especially, this man was almost at the general mcarthur level just a few years ago. people were talking about him being the republican candidate for the presidency in the current election cycle. this is a big fall. this is a big fall down from where he was in our national estimate. >> it's almost the fall of an american hero. this last decade didn't create very many heros in the public i
to speak for a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morell, who is a career agency analyst. michael morell has stepped in as acting director again. i think that's, from the standpoint of the cia and the stability of u.s. intelligence efforts, the most positive thing you could say. morell is a career guy. he's trusted by the white house. he was trusted by petraeus, and so you have a smoother...
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to speak for a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morell, who is a career agency analyst. michael morell has stepped in as acting director again. i think that's, from the standpoint of the cia and the stability of u.s. intelligence efforts, the most positive thing you could say. morell is a career guy. he's trusted by the white house. he was trusted by petraeus, and so you have a smoother transition than you sometimes do in these situations. >> let me get back to richard engel about this. you know, you know these guys. you know as a military guy covering our fights overseas, the combat operations in iraq especially, this man was almost at the general mcarthur level just a few years ago. people were talking about him being the republican candidate for the presidency in the current election cycle. this is a big fall. this is a big fall down from where he was in our national estimate. >> it's almost the fall of an american hero. this last decade didn't create very many heros in the public i
to speak for a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morell, who is a career agency analyst. michael morell has stepped in as acting director again. i think that's, from the standpoint of the cia and the stability of u.s. intelligence efforts, the most positive thing you could say. morell is a career guy. he's trusted by the white house. he was trusted by petraeus, and so you have a smoother...
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i know the cia is going to miss him. all of us on the hill are going to tremendously miss him. >> do you have any concerns that national security was ever at risk? >> you know, i just don't know enough about the details, really, at this moment to respond. i've read everything that's come out thus far and i'm sure more will come out as the week goes on. but, i just don't know enough, really, to weigh in. >> no. >> i can just say that, you know, again, he's a figure here that people respected. i know he contributed tremendously through his lifetime to our national security, and i hate to see him leave. >> well, i appreciate your candor, because it's a very sensitive situation. how about this, though, sir, from a political perspective, there are those who suggest there is more here that meets the eye. do you buy any of that talk? >> i just don't know. i mean, this is a place that's always looking for conspiracy theory. i think you know i've led the charge on benghazi. i've been to libya since it occurred. and tried to under
i know the cia is going to miss him. all of us on the hill are going to tremendously miss him. >> do you have any concerns that national security was ever at risk? >> you know, i just don't know enough about the details, really, at this moment to respond. i've read everything that's come out thus far and i'm sure more will come out as the week goes on. but, i just don't know enough, really, to weigh in. >> no. >> i can just say that, you know, again, he's a figure here...
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agents or 100 cia agents. the country was unsecure, the country was in the middle of a violent revolution. he had been in the area a long time. new exactly what a really bad situation looked like, could recognize it, and really had no business being there. so there was some complicity at the state department about that. there was no reason for him to be there. you couldn't generate the kinds of forces that you woot require to defend the place in short order given a rotten situation that was taking place. there's a lot of blame going around. you could argue that the cia should have known this was a really rotten situation and could have sent a lot more agents there. if i are were the director of the cia i would argue i have no business sending more agents down there at a time when what you needed was for the ambassador to get the heck out of there. >> thank you all. stay with us. much more ahead. >>> final for the your business entrepreneurs of the week. kathleen bailey and susan kad are encouraging customers t
agents or 100 cia agents. the country was unsecure, the country was in the middle of a violent revolution. he had been in the area a long time. new exactly what a really bad situation looked like, could recognize it, and really had no business being there. so there was some complicity at the state department about that. there was no reason for him to be there. you couldn't generate the kinds of forces that you woot require to defend the place in short order given a rotten situation that was...
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as a former cia director. if they found out the director was having an affair, the committee should have been informed. but the view is there's a narrow rule about when you notify congressional committees of investigations and they felt this didn't fit. >> thank you very much. great pleasure having you on with the latest information. let me bring in msnbc analyst general barry mccaffery. thank you for your time. let me get your first reaction. yesterday we were still scratching our heads over general petraeus, how could this happen. and you wake up this morning and now general allen a part of an investigation. what's your reaction to this one-two punch? >> well, you know, general petraeus i have known him since he was 25. he's probably the most brilliant commander we have produced since world war ii. so it's a damaging blow to national security to lose him in this position. he had to resign, risk-taking behavior is probably unacceptable by anybody. >> when you say risk-taking, is it the possibly exposure of hi
as a former cia director. if they found out the director was having an affair, the committee should have been informed. but the view is there's a narrow rule about when you notify congressional committees of investigations and they felt this didn't fit. >> thank you very much. great pleasure having you on with the latest information. let me bring in msnbc analyst general barry mccaffery. thank you for your time. let me get your first reaction. yesterday we were still scratching our heads...
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she will be taking that meeting alongside the acting director of the cia. in addition to this fight over the tax cuts, the president is not shying away from the secretary of state fight either. we know what he's being pressured to do and we know what he'd like to get done in the second term. by looming over all of those factors, looming over all of the decisions that the white house and the president himself are making right now over what to do with this second term, how to start this second term, looming over all of it is the modern american history and even the not-so-modern american history. the best-laid plans more often than not get derailed. for all of the advice a president gets, history offers the best caution for thinking that a second-term president can control how history remembers him. watch this. >> as with other second term presidents, bill clinton still hopes to leave his mark but with smaller steps. an approach more likely to please politicians than historians. >> i would say if he's interested in impressing scholars of the future, one thing
she will be taking that meeting alongside the acting director of the cia. in addition to this fight over the tax cuts, the president is not shying away from the secretary of state fight either. we know what he's being pressured to do and we know what he'd like to get done in the second term. by looming over all of those factors, looming over all of the decisions that the white house and the president himself are making right now over what to do with this second term, how to start this second...
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the fallout continues over the resignation of former cia director general petraeus. petraeus stepped down citing an extramarital affair. an investigation began over the summer when jill kelley, a petraeus family friend, contacted the agency after receiving anonymous harassing e-mails. nbc news investigative correspondent michael isikoff describes what was in those e-mails. >> they accuse her of improper socializing. but they have references to the comings and goings to general petraeus. >> the fbi followed the computer trail that led them to paula broadwell. both broadwell and petraeus admitted they were having an affair after reviewing evidence prosecutors concluded no crimes were committed, but now some members of congress are saying that they or president obama should have been notified that such an investigation was even being conducted. it's curious timing for the conspiracy theorists at fox news. they are still beating the drum on benghazi. petraeus was supposed to testify over the matter. >> based on the evidence we had then, this was the obama administration'
the fallout continues over the resignation of former cia director general petraeus. petraeus stepped down citing an extramarital affair. an investigation began over the summer when jill kelley, a petraeus family friend, contacted the agency after receiving anonymous harassing e-mails. nbc news investigative correspondent michael isikoff describes what was in those e-mails. >> they accuse her of improper socializing. but they have references to the comings and goings to general petraeus....
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>> no. >> you said the cia said okay to the revised report? >> they okayed it to go. yeah, they said okay. >> no apology for ambassador susan rice after a full week of just trashing her? these republicans have a lot of explaining to do for their behavior this week, don't you think? ambassador rice has been exonerated, it took one day. although if you watch fox news, there's still a conspiracy afoot. >> nothing about the attack, nothing about al qaeda, nothing about that al qaeda was involved. to me, the question right now is who changed those talking points and why? >> that is the big question at this hour. who changed the talking points and why? >> republicans are doing whatever it takes to fake a scandal in the obama administration. paul waldman calls it scandal envy. nixon had watergate, clinton had lewinsky, barack obama, well, he's gotten off scot-free, and this is making the republicans absolutely livid, he writes. republicans are not going to get the watergate this time around. senator harry reid wrote a letter to john mccain and lindsey graham saying a select
>> no. >> you said the cia said okay to the revised report? >> they okayed it to go. yeah, they said okay. >> no apology for ambassador susan rice after a full week of just trashing her? these republicans have a lot of explaining to do for their behavior this week, don't you think? ambassador rice has been exonerated, it took one day. although if you watch fox news, there's still a conspiracy afoot. >> nothing about the attack, nothing about al qaeda, nothing about...
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the administration was given an assessment by the cia. susan rice went to the public and gave that to the public. when that information changed, the new information was given to the public. so i am not sure what they're looking for because i don't think there is anything beyond that. >> just to be clear, i'm not saying there's necessarily a conspiracy. what i'm saying is there was a lack of clarity. if the president was indeed clear that first day in saying that this was a terrorist act which by the way i don't think he was that clear, he was speaking generally, then why would susan rice a few days later not refer to it as a terrorist act? the fact of the matter is -- >> so the issue is the word terrorism wasn't used to the public satisfaction? >> one day it was vaguely described. the president saying that he referred to terror one day and then several days later the secretary or susan rice doesn't even refer to terrorism. she is talking about -- you can go right back to the video. the facts weren't clearly described from the beginning. >
the administration was given an assessment by the cia. susan rice went to the public and gave that to the public. when that information changed, the new information was given to the public. so i am not sure what they're looking for because i don't think there is anything beyond that. >> just to be clear, i'm not saying there's necessarily a conspiracy. what i'm saying is there was a lack of clarity. if the president was indeed clear that first day in saying that this was a terrorist act...
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the problem here is the cia backs up everything that susan rice said. i think if you check the transcripts of what she said versus what the cia was saying at the time, those things match. and i think going forward, as we learn more information, as the information begins to spool itself out, as the investigation begins to conclude itself, and i think it will be some time when we get some real answers, i think that you're going to find that it absolutely was plausible that you had a terrorist organization who was taking advantage of a -- you know, of a protest in progress. i've always said that was very plausible. that seems to be, you know, the idea of what's happened here. today when i saw the president during this press conference, i thought he was going to start reciting the line from mop's ante up. he stood tough this afternoon and i think the white house press corps was not prepared for the president obama they saw today. >> nia-malika, some conservatives are calling out talk radio and fox news for lying to their audience. it seems like many republi
the problem here is the cia backs up everything that susan rice said. i think if you check the transcripts of what she said versus what the cia was saying at the time, those things match. and i think going forward, as we learn more information, as the information begins to spool itself out, as the investigation begins to conclude itself, and i think it will be some time when we get some real answers, i think that you're going to find that it absolutely was plausible that you had a terrorist...
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>> no. >> you said the cia said okay to the revised report? >> they okayed it to go. yeah, they said okay. >> no apology for ambassador susan rice after a full week of just trashing her? these republicans have a lot of explaining to do for their behavior this week, don't you think? ambassador rice has been exonerated, it took one day. although if you watch fox news, there's still a cop spear si afoot. >> nothing about the attack, nothing about al qaeda, nothing about that al qaeda was involved. to me, the question right now is who changed those talking points and why? >> that is the big question at this hour. who changed the talking points and why? >> republicans are doing whatever it takes to fake a scandal in the obama administration. paul waldman calls it scandal envy. nixon had watergate, clinton had lewinsky, barack obama, well, he's gotten off scot-free, and this is making the republicans absolutely livid, he writes. republicans are not going to get the watergate this time around. senator harry reid wrote a letter to john mccain and lindsey graham saying a selec
>> no. >> you said the cia said okay to the revised report? >> they okayed it to go. yeah, they said okay. >> no apology for ambassador susan rice after a full week of just trashing her? these republicans have a lot of explaining to do for their behavior this week, don't you think? ambassador rice has been exonerated, it took one day. although if you watch fox news, there's still a cop spear si afoot. >> nothing about the attack, nothing about al qaeda, nothing...
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you know, we appreciated chairman rogers and i working with you as the director of the cia. and we, you know, hope that whatever happens to you in your future we know you have to resolve a lot of personal issues, we wish you good luck. then we just talked a little bit about some of testimony he was going to give before our committee this morning. that was really the conversation. >> sir, as ranking member of the house intelligence committee, you were probably privy to information about the fbi investigation before many of your colleagues. does that kind of drag around through these investigations, these hearings, excuse me, the investigation as a white elephant in the room? >> not really. because our focus is on the benghazi issue. the investigation started as it relates to general petraeus, started as a criminal investigation involving a situation where you had a cyber threat where someone was threatening someone else and that's how the investigation started. and the fbi has investigations all the time. i was a former investigative prosecutor myself. and as these issues evo
you know, we appreciated chairman rogers and i working with you as the director of the cia. and we, you know, hope that whatever happens to you in your future we know you have to resolve a lot of personal issues, we wish you good luck. then we just talked a little bit about some of testimony he was going to give before our committee this morning. that was really the conversation. >> sir, as ranking member of the house intelligence committee, you were probably privy to information about...
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. >> a week after stepping down from the cia, general david petraeus testifies on capitol hill. tonight, colonel lawrence wilkerson separates fact from fiction and has strong words for john mccain. >>> president obama meets with house and senate leadership to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> i think we're all aware that we have some urgent business to do. i think all of us agree on this and this is action. >> we'll have congressman chris van hollen here to expose the problem. >>> governor scott walker joins rick perry in opposition to health care. john nick els joins us with the latest. >>> secessionists are coming out of the woodwork. wait until you hear their reasons. >> good to have you with us. thanks for watching president the right wing afelt to gin up a scandal is falling apart. republicans have declared the president is covering up information about benghazi. republicans gave us a pregame of accusations, involving ambassador susan rice. some house members say this is worse than watergate. >> this is not simply a coverup of a third-rate burglary. we have four of our diplomatic
. >> a week after stepping down from the cia, general david petraeus testifies on capitol hill. tonight, colonel lawrence wilkerson separates fact from fiction and has strong words for john mccain. >>> president obama meets with house and senate leadership to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> i think we're all aware that we have some urgent business to do. i think all of us agree on this and this is action. >> we'll have congressman chris van hollen here to expose the...
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and the fbi and the cia and that might have something to do with it. it is a situation that has turned tampa, and again, we have seen it on "saturday night live" running the humorous skit, but at the heart of it is macdill air force base which is right now observing events in israel, they don't control the military affairs there, but over in egypt as well as the rest of the region, so they have a lot on their mind as well as u.s. special options command and as well as the area that brings in millions off dollars into the local community. so it is a mandate to engage with the community and that is what parts of this "friends with macdill" was. >> well, talk about the probe and how that it is run to investigate and reveal, i guess, how many people around the community have access to the nation's military leaders. >> no, they know. there's about 800 people on the "friends of macdill" program and created by the previous base commanders to get community leaders on to the base in daylight hours and nonsecure areas to engage with the community. what they are
and the fbi and the cia and that might have something to do with it. it is a situation that has turned tampa, and again, we have seen it on "saturday night live" running the humorous skit, but at the heart of it is macdill air force base which is right now observing events in israel, they don't control the military affairs there, but over in egypt as well as the rest of the region, so they have a lot on their mind as well as u.s. special options command and as well as the area that...
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he's been around the cia. he's now the acting director. all of a sudden, it's the u.n. ambassador's problem that she didn't put together the dossier that was going to be presented. this seems to really have united the democrats. if she is nominated to the secretary of state's position to follow hillary clinton s this a fight worth fighting? >> absolutely. if that's what the president wants, she's qualified. she's very intelligent. she's been a great u.n. ambassador. there's no reason not to fight for her. the theme of your show, democrats are showing some backbone. this is another thing. his plans cannot be hijacked by the man he defeated in 2008, john mccain. this is too important. >> to show you how desperate john mccain is, here he is comparing benghazi to the bin laden raid? >> we knew within hours all the details when we got bin laden in the raid there. every one of them. they are making a movie out of it. here we are ten weeks later and finally our ambassador of the united nations who appeared on every national sunday show has now said she gave false information c
he's been around the cia. he's now the acting director. all of a sudden, it's the u.n. ambassador's problem that she didn't put together the dossier that was going to be presented. this seems to really have united the democrats. if she is nominated to the secretary of state's position to follow hillary clinton s this a fight worth fighting? >> absolutely. if that's what the president wants, she's qualified. she's very intelligent. she's been a great u.n. ambassador. there's no reason not...
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a new scandal involving now former cia director general petraeus and an extramarital affair, a florida socialite, a bare chested fbi agent and is this a concern or a washington smoke screen? >> i don't think anyone on either side of the aisle underestimates the difficulties. >> both sides work to gain the high ground in dealing with the looming fiscal cliff, but the media seem to be one-sided in the details. which side do you think they're on? and it's in with the new, but are the old staying, too. >> oh, you've always asked that question except to mitch mcconnell. >> on the panel this week, writer and fox news contributor judy miller. jove oldman, talk radio and jim pinkerton contributing editor the american conservative magazine, and alan colmes, author of thank liberals for saving america and i'm jon scott, fox news watch is on right now. >> this is about the role she played around four dead americans when it seems to be that the story coming out of the administration and she's the point person, is so disconnected to reality, i don't trust her. and the reason i don't trust her is be
a new scandal involving now former cia director general petraeus and an extramarital affair, a florida socialite, a bare chested fbi agent and is this a concern or a washington smoke screen? >> i don't think anyone on either side of the aisle underestimates the difficulties. >> both sides work to gain the high ground in dealing with the looming fiscal cliff, but the media seem to be one-sided in the details. which side do you think they're on? and it's in with the new, but are the...
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. >>> all right, general petraeus' replacement at the cia mike morell met tuesday. he'll speak with counterparts on the house side today about the scandals, the national security implications, why congress wasn't told soon er and, also, e assume benghazi will come up. joining me now the national investigative correspondent michael isikoff and capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell. kelly, let me start with you before i get to mike on the latest on the general scandal itself. congress continues to basically wring their hands over why didn't they know sooner on this front. are they getting any more answers today? >> reporter: well, they expect to get more answers as there is now a kind of greater spirit of providing answers. we've seen the top people from the cia, the acting director who was here yesterday back again today, also the deputy director of the fbi coming to talk to the key members who are on those committees. they would have jurisdiction here, who believe they should have been in the loop at some point. so that's one issue. but a lot of this gets confl
. >>> all right, general petraeus' replacement at the cia mike morell met tuesday. he'll speak with counterparts on the house side today about the scandals, the national security implications, why congress wasn't told soon er and, also, e assume benghazi will come up. joining me now the national investigative correspondent michael isikoff and capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell. kelly, let me start with you before i get to mike on the latest on the general scandal itself....
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and then in september of 2012 the director of the cia is writing a letter vouching for -- >> so, the judge has this assessment of jill's -- >> jill kelley's sister. >> right, right. >> and then general petraeus, as districter of the cia and general allen both wrote letters this past september on behalf of this sister as a favor to jill kelley? >> well, we can presume as a favor to jill kelley, general petraeus, then-cia director petraeus referenced spending time with the sister and her son, young son, while the kelley family, including jill kelley, was visiting with him over christmas, at a christmas dinner at the petraeus home. so, clearly there was a very close relationship there between the kelleys and the petraeuses. >> how does this woman, jill kelley, get to close to all these generals? >> well, you know, that is one of the big unanswered questions here. she clearly had a lot of access to a lot of high-level people in the tampa area. she lived within a mile of central command and special operations command are located. she made a point of volunteering for events and being very
and then in september of 2012 the director of the cia is writing a letter vouching for -- >> so, the judge has this assessment of jill's -- >> jill kelley's sister. >> right, right. >> and then general petraeus, as districter of the cia and general allen both wrote letters this past september on behalf of this sister as a favor to jill kelley? >> well, we can presume as a favor to jill kelley, general petraeus, then-cia director petraeus referenced spending time...
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so david petraeus' old job of running the cia is now suddenly an available job in this administration and the same scandal that created that vacancy at the cia has also now touched the current top u.s. commanding general in afghanistan, whose successor for that job is due to have his confirmation hearings in washington tomorrow. well, today at his first post-re-election press conference, the president largely deflected questions about who he would be appointing to all the top jobs in the administration for his second term. he deflected those questions today with one notable exception. one notable exception that just about took the roof off that room today. did you see this? >> senator john mccain and senator lindsey graham both said today that they want to have watergate-style hearings on the attack at the u.s. consulate in benghazi. and that if you nominate susan rice for secretary of state, they will do everything in their power to block her nomination. as senator graham said, he simply doesn't trust ambassador rice after what she said about benghazi. i would like your reaction to t
so david petraeus' old job of running the cia is now suddenly an available job in this administration and the same scandal that created that vacancy at the cia has also now touched the current top u.s. commanding general in afghanistan, whose successor for that job is due to have his confirmation hearings in washington tomorrow. well, today at his first post-re-election press conference, the president largely deflected questions about who he would be appointing to all the top jobs in the...
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the aclu has taken that argument to federal court where it's suing the cia to release more information. joining us now, a key lawyer in that very case, the national deputy legal director for the aclu. thank you for being here. first let's look at the revelations in this "new york times" article. the white house is concerned about how a future president, president romney, would operate this program and sought to write secret rules, nothing public, which you say in your lawsuit is required under the law, but secret rules to govern it. what is the meaning of those secret rules and would they automatically govern a future administration? >> first, i think they're right to be worry bed how a future administration has used these powers. they have carved out these very broad powers, essentially the authority to kill anyone who is deemed by the executive branch, deemed by the president to be a threat to national security can be killed without due process, can be killed without charges, without disclosure of the evidence, and in fact can be killed without even an acknowledgement by the governme
the aclu has taken that argument to federal court where it's suing the cia to release more information. joining us now, a key lawyer in that very case, the national deputy legal director for the aclu. thank you for being here. first let's look at the revelations in this "new york times" article. the white house is concerned about how a future president, president romney, would operate this program and sought to write secret rules, nothing public, which you say in your lawsuit is...
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she'll be joined by acting cia director mike morrell. the meeting could serve as a real test whether rice would still be in for a fight over her possible nomination as secretary of state. >>> elsewhere on capitol hill, it's back to the bargaining table for lawmakers facing a year-end fiscal cliff. yesterday the white house took a hard line insisting tax rates have to rise on the rich. and warning that any more delay on a deal could ruin consumer confidence and hurt-day retail sales. nbc's tracie potts joins us from washington with all of those details. tracie, good morning to you. >> reporter: hi, lynn. good morning, everyone. as we track negotiations over the next few weeks, keep in mind that the key sticking point seems to be how do you get people who earn over $250,000 to contribute more? limit their deductions? close loopholes? or raise their tax rates? today president obama meets with small business leaders continuing his push for higher taxes for the wealthy. a new white house economic report warns if tax breaks go away, the averag
she'll be joined by acting cia director mike morrell. the meeting could serve as a real test whether rice would still be in for a fight over her possible nomination as secretary of state. >>> elsewhere on capitol hill, it's back to the bargaining table for lawmakers facing a year-end fiscal cliff. yesterday the white house took a hard line insisting tax rates have to rise on the rich. and warning that any more delay on a deal could ruin consumer confidence and hurt-day retail sales....
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the other one until recently head of the cia. this aspect to it, it's just -- well, i don't know what to say. i'm not used to covering these kinds of stories and wouldn't be if these weren't the people involved. your thoughts about how -- fill it in as the reporter. what i'm missing here. >> you did a very good job of pulling that together. i commend you. you really got the high points. it's fascinating, this big scandal affecting two commanders, bringing down petraeus, affecting general john allen, started really with a social scene in tampa. jill kelley is a socialite there. sort of an ad hoc ambassador of sorts, a social ambassador to the military base there. she's known for throwing lavish parties, cigars, champagne, string quartets and socializes with these people. she goes to an fbi agent she knows, again very politically well-connected in tampa, and says in june, i'm getting these strange e-mails. what do i do? this agent takes them to the tampa office of the fbi and says investigate. now, you know, the fbi doesn't investi
the other one until recently head of the cia. this aspect to it, it's just -- well, i don't know what to say. i'm not used to covering these kinds of stories and wouldn't be if these weren't the people involved. your thoughts about how -- fill it in as the reporter. what i'm missing here. >> you did a very good job of pulling that together. i commend you. you really got the high points. it's fascinating, this big scandal affecting two commanders, bringing down petraeus, affecting general...
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threats against the united states was rising and security was -- >> and the answer could be we had cia agents in that area -- >> absolutely. >> that needed to be protected. ambassador susan rice met with her strongest critics on capitol hill today to answer questions about benghazi and the verdict was decidedly negative from her adversaries. they said the meeting left them, here is the word, troubled. let's watch. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get concerning evidence that was overwhelming leading up to the attack on our consulate. >> i'm more disturbed now than i was before. if you don't know what happened, just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations, and you can say i don't want to give bad information. >> i'm more troubled today because it's certainly clear from the beginning that we knew that those with ties to al qaeda were involved in the attack on the embassy. >> well, then we go back to michael here. what i'm hearing today is ambassador rice when she went on "meet the press" in mid-
threats against the united states was rising and security was -- >> and the answer could be we had cia agents in that area -- >> absolutely. >> that needed to be protected. ambassador susan rice met with her strongest critics on capitol hill today to answer questions about benghazi and the verdict was decidedly negative from her adversaries. they said the meeting left them, here is the word, troubled. let's watch. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers...
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with petraeus out he could tap john owe brennan to take over at the cia. secretary of state hillary clinton has insisted she will serve one term only, vacating her post come january. the white house is leaning towards u.s. ambassador to the united nations, susan rice to replace clinton at foggy bottom. rice's confirmation is far from assured giving the questions surrounding her handling of the attacks in benghazi. defense secretary leon panetta made it clear he is ready for retirement. senator john kerry, eyeing the secretary of state position may be asked to replace panetta. adding to the stakes of musical chairs, general allen's confirmation hearing to lead nato has been put on hold. during the campaign president obama called for nation building at home in his second term. he'll need to start by rebuilding his own team. john heilemann, you were a guest on the very first program of this show, there is a lot happening inside the president's inner leadership circle. how much of a problem do you think this is for him? >> first of all, let's not -- let's terr
with petraeus out he could tap john owe brennan to take over at the cia. secretary of state hillary clinton has insisted she will serve one term only, vacating her post come january. the white house is leaning towards u.s. ambassador to the united nations, susan rice to replace clinton at foggy bottom. rice's confirmation is far from assured giving the questions surrounding her handling of the attacks in benghazi. defense secretary leon panetta made it clear he is ready for retirement. senator...
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i don't understand the cia said clearly that information was wrong. and they knew by the 22nd it was wrong. yet, they have not cleared that up with the american people. >> in a statement just now, susan rice admits that the initial information about a protest in benghazi was incorrect, but says no one intended to mislead the public. business as usual, congress is back and picks up just where it left off. stalemated over tax rates and entitlement spending. >> unfortunately, there's one obstacle standing between congress and compromise, grover norquist. for years, norquist has bullied lawmakers willing to put their oath of office or promise to serve constituents ahead of their pledge to this anti-tax zell lot. >> the washington democrats, every dollar that's ever been secured for anything is sacred. every dollar secured for anything is sacred. and they'll defend it to the death regardless of what it means for jobs, or the economy. >>> coming up here, the it's top economic adviser alan krueger. clashes in cairo today, more protests in tahrir square again
i don't understand the cia said clearly that information was wrong. and they knew by the 22nd it was wrong. yet, they have not cleared that up with the american people. >> in a statement just now, susan rice admits that the initial information about a protest in benghazi was incorrect, but says no one intended to mislead the public. business as usual, congress is back and picks up just where it left off. stalemated over tax rates and entitlement spending. >> unfortunately, there's...
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you remember what was going on around that time was the outing of a cia officer. he was hip deep in the scandal and nearly indicted with the case. and this year, he has crossroads america and they raised and spent millions of other people's money for this election. i don't know how you tell your donors that we spent $390 million and got nothing. >> those are the republican party campaign arms for the house and senate. he is running things. rove is a problem. heck, rove managed to make donald trump angry. rove wanted to not to be wrong so badly. he wanted to have one big race so badly on election night he became borderline incoherent on fox news saying what was happening was not happening. i realize he is a big republican figure but at
you remember what was going on around that time was the outing of a cia officer. he was hip deep in the scandal and nearly indicted with the case. and this year, he has crossroads america and they raised and spent millions of other people's money for this election. i don't know how you tell your donors that we spent $390 million and got nothing. >> those are the republican party campaign arms for the house and senate. he is running things. rove is a problem. heck, rove managed to make...
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all along and for several reasons it's understandable why they wanted to hear from him, he was the cia director when the attack happened and went to libya and did sort of a fact-finding trip and came back and had additional information all of which the committee still wants to hear and according to our pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski, petraeus himself wanted to do this and called his old colleagues at the cia and said, listen, i know they want to hear from me, i want to testify so they want to hear from him, he wants to testify so it's going to happen. it should be clarified here though, thomas, it won't be an open session. it'll be a closed session because obviously they'll be discussing classified information. >> pete, the other interesting thing we're just learning this new information about the e-mails between jill kelley and general allen and one source describing to nbc news that they were friendly, not so much of a sexual nature. we're talking about thousands of e-mails here but what more can you tell us? >> i don't think we know exactly how many e-mails there are becaus
all along and for several reasons it's understandable why they wanted to hear from him, he was the cia director when the attack happened and went to libya and did sort of a fact-finding trip and came back and had additional information all of which the committee still wants to hear and according to our pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski, petraeus himself wanted to do this and called his old colleagues at the cia and said, listen, i know they want to hear from me, i want to testify so they...
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year at the front ended for general petraeus when he came back to washington to become head of the cia. a job from which he unexpectedly and suddenly resigned last week saying he had been having an extra-marital affair. meanwhile, yet another confirmation hearing is due this week for yet another new commander of the war in afghanistan. marine general joe dunford will take on over the reins from john allen. he took over from general petraeus. while general allen is still running the war over there, he too is caught up in the petraeus affair scandal. his confirmation hearings for his next big job, nato supreme commander, those hearings are on hold while the matter of general allen's only personal relationship with one of the women involved can be sorted out. general allen is in washington for his own now postponed confirmation hearings for his next job and for his own now canceled role in the confirmation hearings for his successor to lead the afghanistan war. in washington he is denying any suggestion that he had an inappropriate relationship with anyone, and the defense department and
year at the front ended for general petraeus when he came back to washington to become head of the cia. a job from which he unexpectedly and suddenly resigned last week saying he had been having an extra-marital affair. meanwhile, yet another confirmation hearing is due this week for yet another new commander of the war in afghanistan. marine general joe dunford will take on over the reins from john allen. he took over from general petraeus. while general allen is still running the war over...
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you remember what was going on around that time was the outing of a cia officer. he was hip deep in the scandal and nearly indied with the case. and this year, he has crossroads america and they raised and spent millions of other people's money for this election. i don't know how you tell your donors that we spent $390 million and got nothing. >> those are the republican party campaign arms for the house and senate. he is running things. rove is a le
you remember what was going on around that time was the outing of a cia officer. he was hip deep in the scandal and nearly indied with the case. and this year, he has crossroads america and they raised and spent millions of other people's money for this election. i don't know how you tell your donors that we spent $390 million and got nothing. >> those are the republican party campaign arms for the house and senate. he is running things. rove is a le